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Dr. Truth
New Scientist December 25, 1999 By Michael Bond
What do you call an environmentalist who supports logging and
condemns the protests against genetically modified foods? Some green
activists label Patrick Moore a liar. Others compare him to Judas.
Strong words to describe a founding member of Greenpeace and a
veteran of the frontline against everything from whaling to nuclear
waste. Moore's life is no simple equation. Having spent half a
lifetime courting danger and arrest, he became disillusioned with
the mainstream environmental movement, accusing it of abandoning
science and following agendas that have little to do with saving the
Earth.
Michael Bond asked him where it all went wrong.
You come from a family of loggers. How did they take to you
becoming an environmentalist?
My dad was one of our biggest supporters when we started
Greenpeace in the early 1970s. With the US nuclear tests in Alaska
there was a possibility that the hydrogen bombs would trigger an
earthquake that would, in turn, trigger a tsunami. A very serious
one during the Alaska earthquake of 1964 severely affected my
father's business. Environmentalism then did not involve bashing
loggers. We were concerned about all-out nuclear war and it blows my
mind sometimes to see the movement behaving the same way about
forestry that it did about nuclear war. I think they've got their
priorities a bit mixed up.
What were those early days of Greenpeace like?
They were heady--there was huge camaraderie. We used to sing all
the time. We always had a couple of people with a guitar. We were
together for weeks on end on many of those expeditions into the
Pacific and out to Newfoundland. We always had songs, such as: "If
mankind was created a step below the angels, the whales I'm sure
were somewhere in between." They were wonderful songs. We really had
a wonderful time. We always thought that a revolution should be a
celebration. We tried to avoid the hair-shirt mentality that tends
to creep in with self-righteousness, dogmatism and that sort of
thing.
As an ecologist with a PhD in the subject, were you a rare
breed in the organisation?
I was somewhat rare and had to live with the fact throughout my
time in Greenpeace that there was a lot of disrespect for my
science. That is why they called me Dr Truth. It was kind of a
put-down.
As Greenpeace became bigger, richer and more famous did its
priorities or principles change?
The best thing is that Greenpeace has remained faithful to the
peaceful civil disobedience theme. In other words, the "peace" in
Greenpeace is still the main principle. I think that's excellent. I
do think though that they have diversified into so many issues, many
of which are questionable in terms of priorities and some of which
are just plain wrong-headed. A case in point is GM foods. If they
are really so worried about human health, why don't they tackle
tobacco?
Few scientists become radical environmental activists. What
lit the spark with you?
It was partly my professors. The most important was Vladimir
Krajina, a Czech forest ecologist. I used to think that science was
just about technology. But after studying with Krajina, the light
suddenly went on and I realised that the mystery of nature could be
approached through science and ecology. The political part came
while I was writing my thesis on pollution control in 1972. A very
large copper- mining project was applying to dump its tailings into
the sea. It was very close to my boyhood home at Winter Harbour in
Vancouver Island, Canada. I chose to study not just the
environmental impact of the tailings disposal, but the system that
granted permits for the process. I soon learned that this was immune
to truth.
Why after 15 years of activism did you start to become
disenchanted with the environmental movement?
Partly it was the fact that foot soldiers often become diplomats.
I don't think anybody should be required to be in confrontational
environmental politics for their whole lives, especially when they
start a family. But it was partly the movement's refusal to evolve.
I'm in favour of civil disobedience in order to bring about justice
where something really bad is going on such as nuclear testing or
toxic dumping. But I'm a Gandhian through and through-I believe that
peaceful civil disobedience and passive resistance movements are
great shapers of social change. But when industry and government
agree that the environment needs to be taken into account in policy
making, and when there are ministries and vice-presidents of the
environment, it seems to me it would be a good idea to work with
them. When a majority of people decide to agree with you, it is time
to stop hitting them over the head.
How has the environmental movement got it so wrong?
The environmental movement abandoned science and logic somewhere
in the mid-1980s, just as mainstream society was adopting all the
more reasonable items on the environmental agenda. This was because
many environmentalists couldn't make the transition from
confrontation to consensus, and could not get out of adversarial
politics. This particularly applies to political activists who were
using environmental rhetoric to cover up agendas that had more to do
with class warfare and anti-corporatism than they did with the
actual science of the environment. To stay in an adversarial role,
those people had to adopt ever more extreme positions because all
the reasonable ones were being accepted.
But hasn't environmentalism always been about opposing the
establishment?
Environmentalism was always anti-establishment, but in the early
days of Greenpeace we did not characterise ourselves as left wing.
That happened after the fall of the Berlin wall when a whole bunch
of left wing activists, who no longer had any role in the peace,
women's or labour movements, joined us. I would go to the Greenpeace
Toronto office and there would be an awful lot of young people
wearing army fatigues and red berets in there.
Environmentalists recoil with horror when they hear you say
that harvesting trees for paper or fuel benefits plants and
wildlife. What's your evidence?
The environmental movement is essentially anti-forestry. Young
people are being convinced to stop using trees to make paper and use
environmentally appropriate alternative fibres, such as hemp and
cotton. Now where are you going to grow those exotic farm crops? You
are going to grow them where you have been growing trees for 20
years, where an environment exists for bugs, birds, squirrels and
other wildlife. That environment will be destroyed if you clear a
forest to grow a farm crop.
Does this mean that even clear-cutting is not as damaging as
we've been led to believe?
Forests are resilient. They can grow back from total volcanic
destruction, ice ages, fires, storms, whatever. You can take heavy
equipment and bulldoze the soil right down to bedrock over a huge
area, and if you go away and come back 100 years later you will have
a new forest starting to grow back. Just logging the trees is not
going to irreversibly destroy the ecosystem. In addition, I believe
it is possible to sustain the biodiversity of a forest while
removing large quantities of timber.
Surely you're not saying that logging has no impact on
biodiversity?
Logging is never going to have zero impact. But its aim should be
to maintain viable populations of all those species that were on
that site to begin with. So you plan your forestry in such a way to
ensure that there is a suitable habitat for every one of those
species somewhere all of the time. For example, when you clear-cut
an area, you are going to remove a lot of the shrubs, which means
that shrub-nesting birds will not do well there for a while. But as
long as you have a place that was logged ten years ago somewhere
nearby where the shrub layer has been able to replace itself, the
birds will not mind if there are no trees.
Green groups warn that logging is threatening some animals
with extinction. Are you telling me they're wrong?
In 1996 the World Wide Fund for Nature (WWF) announced that 50
000 species are going extinct each year due to human activity. And
the main cause, they said, is commercial logging. The story was
carried around the world, and hundreds of millions of people came to
believe that forestry is the main cause of species extinction.
During the past three years I've asked the WWF on many occasions to
provide me with a list of some of the species that have supposedly
become extinct due to logging. They have not offered up a single
example as evidence. In fact, to the best of our scientific
knowledge, no species has become extinct in North America due to
forestry.
You may disagree with the green groups, but would you still
describe yourself as an environmentalist?
James Lovelock is my hero and I believe in the Gaia hypothesis
that all life is one living breathing being, I don't see any reason
to damage it more than necessary. I believe in gardening the Earth,
but there should be lots of places left wild. The "hands off"
attitude doesn't work with 6 billion humans needing things from the
Earth every day.
Why do you oppose the campaign against genetically modified
crops?
I believe we are entering an era now where pagan beliefs and junk
science are influencing public policy. GM foods and forestry are
both good examples where policy is being influenced by arguments
that have no basis in fact or logic. Certainly, biotechnology needs
to be done very carefully. But GM crops are in the same category as
estrogen-mimicking compounds and pesticide residues. They are seen
as an invisible force that will kill us all in our sleep or turn us
all into mutants. It is preying on people's fear of the unknown.
What does the future hold for the environmental movement?
We need to get out of the adversarial approach. People who base
their opinion on science and reason and who are politically centrist
need to take the movement back from the extremists who have hijacked
it, often to further agendas that have nothing to do with ecology.
It is important to remember that the environmental movement is only
30 years old. All movements go through some mucky periods. But
environmentalism has become codified to such an extent that if you
disagree with a single word, then you are apparently not an
environmentalist. Rational discord is being discouraged. It has too
many of the hallmarks of the Hitler youth, or the religious right.
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Patrick Moore's website is at http://www.greenspirit.com/.
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